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aboomohammad
15-11-2004, 11:06 PM
BUSH WATCHES NEW PHOTOS OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS RAPING AN IRAQI WOMAN BEFORE BEING PUBLISHED!!!



Translated by: Prof. Dr. Q. Al-Samarrai

Samarrai11@hotmail.com



Washington: Sources in the Pentagon revealed that there are between 200 and 300 photos depicting various methods of inhumanly abusing and torturing Iraqi detainees which are not as yet published or shown to the media. Some of them show sexual violation and violent raping of young Iraqi boys. Bush watched as well photos of American soldiers (three of them) raping collectively an Iraqi detainee woman whom they forcibly led to an isolated spot. The American CNN reported that a well informed source in Bush administration as saying: Bush himself saw tens of colour photos depicting American soldiers in despicable sexual scenes with Iraqi detainees. Sources in Bush administration announced that furious discussion is going between the White House and the Pentagon on about whether it is advisable to permit publishing ALL the photos and videos that show the excessive abuse of Iraqi detainees at the hands of American soldiers instead of waiting for the media to get hold of them. A final disc ion was not yet reached. Bush undertook an unprecedented initiative when he visited the Pentagon to show his support of his defense secretary who s facing an ever increasing pressure to resign his post. In the same meeting, Bush declared: “we will hold accountable every one who committed the act of torture or abused the Iraqi detainees. He further says: “Free states can face such problems but the investigations about the abuses have already begun what is now called “the session of excuses”. But in spite of mounting criticism leveled against the defense secretary of state concerning the inhumane treatment of the Iraqi detainees, Bush turned his face to Ramsveld saying: “you have done a great job” “you are a great defense secretary, you have performed a great work to fight terrorism”. Bush promised to continue the commitment of his country in staying in Iraq until his commitment is accomplished. He, moreover, said: “I will take every precaution to safeguard the American forces in Iraq and the security of the Iraqis”.

http://us.moheet.com/asp/cunt_show.asp?lol=1269791

Jerusalem
16-11-2004, 04:38 AM
Prove it. You posted this spin, now give proof. Haven't got any? It figures.

AboOsama
16-11-2004, 10:41 PM
HA HA HA Ha Ha

ALL what you see around you everyday and you say "Prove it to us "

I also tell you prove yourself ...!! May be you are not you ...

HA HA HA Ha Ha

aboomohammad
18-11-2004, 08:50 AM
Prove it. You posted this spin, now give proof. Haven't got any? It figures.
Proof is there the person who translated the document .Ask him I am sure he would be more than helpful I did not write it I just shared it.His email address is there , feel free to contact him.
Bye
Aboo mohammad

ApostateAbe
18-11-2004, 09:39 AM
To: Samarrai11@hotmail.com
Subject: curious about sources

Dear Dr. Q. Al-Samarrai,

I saw the English translation of your report titled, "BUSH WATCHES NEW PHOTOS OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS RAPING AN IRAQI WOMAN BEFORE BEING PUBLISHED!!!" The report cites anonymous sources in the Pentagon, but--how did your associates get access to these sources? Why are these sources talking to your colleagues, but not, for example, Seymour Hersh? The report said, "The American CNN reported that a well informed source in Bush administration as saying: Bush himself saw tens of colour photos depicting American soldiers in despicable sexual scenes with Iraqi detainees." If it isn't too much trouble, can you please let me know about the specific CNN report? I can't find it anywhere on the Web. Maybe it is elsewhere. Those of us at the Iman Way Forums would love to hear back from you.

Thanks a lot,
Abel Dean
When I hear back from the good professor, I will let you know.

ApostateAbe
19-11-2004, 12:36 AM
Dear Mr. Dean,
Thank you for your email concerning an article I translated long time
ago
from Arabic published in
http://us.moheet.com/asp/cunt_show.asp?lol=1269791.
The webcite is resposible for the informations provided in the article
which
are substantiated and authenticated by different press reports at the
time.
Thank you again
Yours
Prof.Dr.Q.Al-Samarrai

The link leads to the same Arabic website as in the OP. I don't know Arabic, so I still can't find my way to the sources in question.

Milanista23
03-12-2004, 09:20 PM
I know Arabic, and I confirm that the translation was correct.

ApostateAbe
04-12-2004, 01:39 AM
I know Arabic, and I confirm that the translation was correct.
Can you tell me what the sources are? I would like to know where this came from: "Bush himself saw tens of colour photos depicting American soldiers in despicable sexual scenes with Iraqi detainees."

Milanista23
04-12-2004, 07:30 AM
The only thing written there as a source is "Washington".
Then, later in the article, it is written that this was revealed by sources in the Pentagon.

Milanista23
04-12-2004, 01:21 PM
I think: Not everything that has a source is "Correct".
In the same time, not everything that does not have a source is "Wrong".

I don't know if the above article is correct or not, but if people will depend on articles with sources to believe things, then we all will be fooled by the US.

For example, in Iraq in somedays hundreds of US soldiers dies, but the reports "with sources" never mention it. There are many Iraqi people in my country who get the news, and that's why I know it.

ApostateAbe
05-12-2004, 08:55 AM
I think: Not everything that has a source is "Correct".
In the same time, not everything that does not have a source is "Wrong".

I don't know if the above article is correct or not, but if people will depend on articles with sources to believe things, then we all will be fooled by the US.

For example, in Iraq in somedays hundreds of US soldiers dies, but the reports "with sources" never mention it. There are many Iraqi people in my country who get the news, and that's why I know it.Absolutely true. I don't believe websites just because they have sources. But I and all of us must maintain skepticism about extraordinary claims, even when they line up with what we already believe. A hero of mine, Carl Sagan, said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." And so when I see claims like what that website is making, I will not believe it until I see evidence. Evidence is provided by credible testimony from trustworthy people, videotapes, audio recordings, and that sort of thing. Extremist websites tend to make up testimony from vague sources to agree with whatever common myths there are among their readership. If they are not specific with their sources, then I can't verify or disprove what they are saying, and that is often the intent.

Talibah
10-12-2004, 03:45 PM
Astaghfirullah
how bad
May Allah protect us from these bad things
ameen