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SkyAboveYou
12-05-2005, 03:40 PM
we need some brain stormin' in this forum...

so any1 got ideas of how we can serve our beautiful blessing from Allah ISLAM then do drop it here..

we hope that all can put their ideas inshaAllah...:)

Peace be with you..

candle of hope
13-05-2005, 09:02 PM
Al Sallam Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh..

My Sister,

the fact that this is an english forum..
i believe that "as an opinion" in order to serve islam as a start.. we could start by handing out CD's (To muslims and non-muslims) that include many English meaningful Anasheed's that do not contain the usage of musical instruments.. :)

is that a good idea?

aboomohammad
14-05-2005, 12:33 PM
Al Sallam Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh..

My Sister,

the fact that this is an english forum..
i believe that "as an opinion" in order to serve islam as a start.. we could start by handing out CD's (To muslims and non-muslims) that include many English meaningful Anasheed's that do not contain the usage of musical instruments.. :)

is that a good idea?salams sister,
do you have a source that can provide free cd's for muslims and non muslim.Pls let us know.
salams
Aboo mohammad

candle of hope
14-05-2005, 12:53 PM
Al Sallam Wa Alaikoum Wa Rahmat ALlah Wa Barakatuh..

unfortunately i dont know any..
but what i do is that i download Anasheed from the internet and burn them on a CD and give them away..

i have read some fatawa's that said that it is not haram.. but just to be on the safe side, i have sent a question to some experts and im waiting for their reply.. to see if i should continue givin out the CD's or not..
because if i find out that what i am doing was haram then i shall stop..

Fe aman Allah

maryam_islam
14-05-2005, 05:49 PM
Asalam alaikum wa rahmut ALLAH wa barakatuh,


I tried the use of Islamic Anasheed in English before with Muslims and Non-Muslims. Here were my observations, according to age groups, ethnicity, and religion:

1] Muslim children, from the ages of 5 to 12, were very fond of the anasheed, and were eager to memorize the "songs", and eventually did, singing them to their parents :)

2] Young teenage Muslims, from the ages of 13 to 16, gave me three responses:

1. One group found the accapalo (anasheed with voices only) very weird, and dull, as they compared it to "oldies" and an educational segment, rather than entertaining.

2. The other group, who listened to the anasheed with drums, were further divided into two groups:

a) They either related to the tune, and loved it. Increasing their emaan and awareness.

b) They made fun of the childish beat, or thought that it was so different than what they were used to(pop music) so couldnt relate to it. (this group however claimed to love Mina Rap)

3] Muslim Adults, over 19 years of age, were willing to listen, and showed interest in areas like Hijab, Prophet Muhammad(sala Allah alaihy wa salam), Dawood Warnsby Ali, and Cat Stevens' "Tala 'al Badru Alaina" song.

4] The highest response to Dawah with anasheed were the new converts to Islam. It gave them an Eman rush!! It was also a tactic in teaching them certain principles of Islam without them stressing out. Note: New converts to Islam have a hard time with Fiqh at first, because it is overwhelming in differences of opinion and topics. Anasheed helped them take it easy, and concentrate on Aqueeda first, rather than jumping into the deep end of the pool.

5] The non-Muslim group that I worked with were mainly Christians- either practicing or non practicing. They especially like Cat Stevens songs, like "God is the Light".

6] Back in University, some non-Muslims were offended to hear English anasheed, I guess you could say they were 'intimidated' since the use of Allah was mentioned alot.

My advise is, use anasheed with non-Muslims only when they show interest in Islam(considering conversion), or Islamic culture as just to know what its like.

And always remember, that weak muslims are reluctant to try out anasheed, because they think it is for people who have taken on 'Zohd". So, we can't trick them in believing that the anasheed can substitute Pop Music, for instance.

Wa'Salam alaikum,
Maryam

candle of hope
14-05-2005, 08:54 PM
Wa Alaikoum Al Salam Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh..

i have experienced with muslims.. and alhamdlillah everything went ok..

about non-muslims.. you are experienced :)
so it's all up to you..
i am just giving some idea's

Allah ywafaqkoum :)

Fe Aman Allah

aboomohammad
14-05-2005, 11:23 PM
Asalam alaikum wa rahmut ALLAH wa barakatuh,


I tried the use of Islamic Anasheed in English before with Muslims and Non-Muslims. Here were my observations, according to age groups, ethnicity, and religion:

1] Muslim children, from the ages of 5 to 12, were very fond of the anasheed, and were eager to memorize the "songs", and eventually did, singing them to their parents :)

2] Young teenage Muslims, from the ages of 13 to 16, gave me three responses:

1. One group found the accapalo (anasheed with voices only) very weird, and dull, as they compared it to "oldies" and an educational segment, rather than entertaining.

2. The other group, who listened to the anasheed with drums, were further divided into two groups:

a) They either related to the tune, and loved it. Increasing their emaan and awareness.

b) They made fun of the childish beat, or thought that it was so different than what they were used to(pop music) so couldnt relate to it. (this group however claimed to love Mina Rap)

3] Muslim Adults, over 19 years of age, were willing to listen, and showed interest in areas like Hijab, Prophet Muhammad(sala Allah alaihy wa salam), Dawood Warnsby Ali, and Cat Stevens' "Tala 'al Badru Alaina" song.

4] The highest response to Dawah with anasheed were the new converts to Islam. It gave them an Eman rush!! It was also a tactic in teaching them certain principles of Islam without them stressing out. Note: New converts to Islam have a hard time with Fiqh at first, because it is overwhelming in differences of opinion and topics. Anasheed helped them take it easy, and concentrate on Aqueeda first, rather than jumping into the deep end of the pool.

5] The non-Muslim group that I worked with were mainly Christians- either practicing or non practicing. They especially like Cat Stevens songs, like "God is the Light".

6] Back in University, some non-Muslims were offended to hear English anasheed, I guess you could say they were 'intimidated' since the use of Allah was mentioned alot.

My advise is, use anasheed with non-Muslims only when they show interest in Islam(considering conversion), or Islamic culture as just to know what its like.

And always remember, that weak muslims are reluctant to try out anasheed, because they think it is for people who have taken on 'Zohd". So, we can't trick them in believing that the anasheed can substitute Pop Music, for instance.

Wa'Salam alaikum,
Maryam
salams sisters.
may i mention that I work with a lot of non muslims thus I do alot of da'awah to them at work.On one occasion we were talking about my past musical background, and the converstaions switched to Brother Yusuf Islam who I met the last time he came here.The non muslims were facinated by him as they know his voice as Cat Stevens.One of them who is particularly interested in Islam was so fascinated that he wanted to borrow the CDs that i got from Brother yusuf.
This non muslim was so happy and he still is, although the words mention Allah and Islam he tends to like listening to them.May allah Guide him soon.

Another brother from the US who took shahada with us a little while back who is actually a good friend of mine now.He was, before reversion, an avid fan of Cat Stevens.Had all his records and so on.When he heard I was going to meet him he went crazy.He asked for an autograph, told me to pass a message to bro yusuf that " bro yusuf is a great influence on him".He told me "you don't know what I would do if I get his autograph.
Brother Yusuf was very pleased and sent him a autographed CD.
To cut a long story short.As a non muslim this worked wonders for this brother.He recently took shahada with us .
So many Anasheed depending , from who, can have effect.
There is also a non muslim sister form my homeland , britain, who is interested in Islam and is learning.When she heard sami Yusuf's "mu'allim" she fellin love with it.She said it brings peace in the heart.
So we have anasheed that can help and some non muslims do like it.
salams
Aboo mohammad

candle of hope
15-05-2005, 08:44 AM
Al Sallam Wa AlaikoumWa Rahmat Allah..

My brother abomohammed..
mashaAllah that is a nice thing to hear..

but i want to comment on one thing..
Sami Yusuf, used musical instruments in his Anasheed.. (I dont think it is considered Anasheed) so i think it is better that you dont lead people to his cassettes or CD's because we know that the use of musical instruments is forbidden.. In addition, we know that if you give someone a cassette and there is a sin in listening to it, the one who gave the cassette gets everytime the sin of the one who is listening to the cassette..

this is an advice from your sister..
So please dont get offended..
if what i said bothered you then i do apologize..

Fe Aman Allah

aboomohammad
15-05-2005, 09:28 AM
Al Sallam Wa AlaikoumWa Rahmat Allah..

My brother abomohammed..
mashaAllah that is a nice thing to hear..

but i want to comment on one thing..
Sami Yusuf, used musical instruments in his Anasheed.. (I dont think it is considered Anasheed) so i think it is better that you dont lead people to his cassettes or CD's because we know that the use of musical instruments is forbidden.. In addition, we know that if you give someone a cassette and there is a sin in listening to it, the one who gave the cassette gets everytime the sin of the one who is listening to the cassette..

this is an advice from your sister..
So please dont get offended..
if what i said bothered you then i do apologize..

Fe Aman Allah
My sister in islam assalamualaikum,
thank you for the naseeha, may I just add that during outr da'awah training course we had mentioned about various daawah materials That we can give to NON MUSLIMS (the Stress on non muslims).One of the Cds that we give to non muslims is "Harun yahya's Miracles of the Quran".This has music from beginning to end.But it is a tool we use for da'awah and a good one too.It is attractive to the non muslim and make them want to watch more.We are not promoting the Music, but the content in the message, and again the stress on the non muslims.Mua'allim by Sami Yusuf has drum beats in it and so do the songs of Yusuf islam and those who accompany him.If in those words or the message of the CD or cassette the NON muslim is finding Peace ( just like the cases I explained, then it is acceptable to give that tool CD or Cassette) to them.There is difference of opinion on the issue of the daff, from scholar to scholar who I have discussed with.Many of our scholars world wide have done conferences and these issues have been mentioned.
Once the person has come to Islam then through their education they will learn what is forbidden for them what is doubtful and what is allowed. There are many things mentioned in the Quran that apply to us and not the non muslims, and vice versa.Like the verse, "there is no compulsion in religion".
That applies to the non muslim, no compulsion on them to come into Islam, the truth and falsehood is there, they choose it is up to them.However for us we have chosen the truth and whatever ever is obligatory in Islam applies to us and not the non muslim.
An example a non muslim woman working in Muslim land, hijab is not fard on her.That same woman come to islam then the issue of hijab relates to her.
I hope that this has explained the issue.i am not a scholar but thank allah for the little knowledge he has given me.
Allah knows best.Whatever is good comes from allah and whatever wrong comes from us and may Allah forgive us all for our wrongs and increase our knowledge.
salams
Aboo Mohammad


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candle of hope
15-05-2005, 01:19 PM
Al Sallam Wa Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh

I totally agree with you.. but..

. قال رسول الله - صلى الله عليه و سلم - : " ليكونن من أمتي أقوام يستحلون الحر و الحرير و الخمر و المعازف " . ( أخرجه البخاري ) .

aboomohammad
15-05-2005, 02:51 PM
Al Sallam Wa Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh

I totally agree with you.. but..

. قال رسول الله - صلى الله عليه و سلم - : " ليكونن من أمتي أقوام يستحلون الحر و الحرير و الخمر و المعازف " . ( أخرجه البخاري ) .
This hadith applies to the Ummah(muslims) it does not apply to non muslims.
5 times daily prayer does not apply to non muslims.
Fasting.hajj, Zakaat.
Non muslims in Muslim land drink acohol (in hotels and their compounds)do we enforce the law of the quran and hadith on them too.
salams.
Aboo Mohammad

aboomohammad
15-05-2005, 03:16 PM
salams,
also just like to mention that we are not asking the Non mUslim we are giving da'awah to, to listen to a rock concert.Some of them get inspired with the words of these songs, or as in the case of the "miracles of the Quran" the contents of the CD.
Salams
Aboo Mohammad

poor slave
15-05-2005, 10:17 PM
Salam to all,
Abo Muhammad , i was just thinking , lets say we gave some one an islamic nasheed with the music in it , and subhanAllah they embrace Islam "in sha Allah" then after that we tell them, don't listen to it it's Haram?
I say that is better to give them the whole package as it is !! they will like it, I don't think that they are ONLY waiting to have musical instruments to accept to listen to a song or not. This will be a new field to them. Something they are looking for " purity, simple ness ….. , things we have to offer them, things they never experienced before , Islam is a way of life, I beautiful one the never know it exists.
I don’t want to be harsh but, this is just an opinion, as Alahmdulilah, I have a 8 year experience as the head of the female office to help calling non Muslims to Islam this is our policy.
Take care
Thanks for the nice topic,
Your sister
Poor slave

aboomohammad
15-05-2005, 11:43 PM
Salam to all,
Abo Muhammad , i was just thinking , lets say we gave some one an islamic nasheed with the music in it , and subhanAllah they embrace Islam "in sha Allah" then after that we tell them, don't listen to it it's Haram?
I say that is better to give them the whole package as it is !! they will like it, I don't think that they are ONLY waiting to have musical instruments to accept to listen to a song or not. This will be a new field to them. Something they are looking for " purity, simple ness ….. , things we have to offer them, things they never experienced before , Islam is a way of life, I beautiful one the never know it exists.
I don’t want to be harsh but, this is just an opinion, as Alahmdulilah, I have a 8 year experience as the head of the female office to help calling non Muslims to Islam this is our policy.
Take care
Thanks for the nice topic,
Your sister
Poor slave
I think we are going away from the topic here, when we say anasheed with music we are not talking here of guitar, Organ , trumpet and so on and so forth.That we all know is prohibitted in Islam and no one is encouraging anybody give people muslims or non muslims any material with a rock concert in it.
There are muslim singers who have used drum beats also known as daff.This according to many scholars is not prohibitted in islam.There is difference of opinion in this issue and many well known scholars agreed that certain drum beat are not prohibitted.
However we have ansheed often in arabic with full musical instruments on them.This is prohibitted in islam, even if they are singing about Allah.Many anasheed about palestine and other Issues have a full philharmonic orchestra accompanying them.I don't think any proper practicing muslim in his right mind will give this to non muslims and then after tell them music is haram.We can provide material to non muslims and at the same time stick to the rules of the sharia and as i said there are differences of opinon over the issue of The drums.
I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding.
Allah knows best.
Aboo Mohammad

barbara
16-05-2005, 06:02 PM
Alsalam Alikom wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu brothers and sisters:

I have been reading, with great interest, the posts regarding musical instruments and anasheed. As a recent convert, I had not realized that instruments were prohibited in Islam, so I asked another sister about this. She explained everything to me and then asked if I would like to hear some anasheed. I agreed. I loved it. I don't remember who the singer was, but the anasheed was lovely. There were drums in the background, but not so loud as too overpower the singer and the message. I think the only reason I even heard the drum is the fact that I am a drummer myself. (I play the Irish hand drum called a bodhran.) I am glad to hear that drums are not always prohibited. I feel my talent is given to me by Allah (swt) as drumming and ability to set and keep a rhythym is not easily accomplished by most people.

Sis Blue-Rose is sending me some CD's with anasheed and I cannot wait to get them.

wa'salaam alikom,

Jana

candle of hope
17-05-2005, 09:34 PM
Al Salam Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh..

i have an idea.. which is suitable for everyone..

why dont you buy a "MONEY BOX" or a "CASH BOX" and spin around the house and ask everyone to donate money for the poor or for WAQF..


http://www.boatmail.co.jp/img/moneybox_wl.jpg

let this be a habit in your family.. that every now and then they put money in the money box.. :) even if it was One Dollar, One Dirham , One Euro.. :)
in one month, you'll get a decent amount of money that will help one poor family :) inshaAllah..

Wa Jazakoum Allah Kol Al khair

maryam_islam
18-05-2005, 02:17 AM
Salam alaikum wa rahmut ALLAH wa barakatuh,

I agree with the money box idea. It really promotes generosity and charity giving with your children and siblings. It also is a great reminder to one for all the blessings Allah has given Him, and charity is one of the noteworthy acts of worships to show your thanks to ALLAH. This is a good tool in Dawah, if, by chance guests see this money boz or p.... bank. Have one of your children describe what it is, while you get something from the kitchen. Indirect dawah is effective with children as a matter of fact. Teach your children the pillars of eman, or a new nasheed, and have them sing it to your non-practicing family members; you never know, maybe a child can warm the heart of one who has deserted ALLAH's path. Never give up, and keep up the great work brothers and sisters.

Sincerely,
Sister Maryam

aboomohammad
18-05-2005, 08:38 AM
Salam alaikum wa rahmut ALLAH wa barakatuh,

I agree with the money box idea. It really promotes generosity and charity giving with your children and siblings. It also is a great reminder to one for all the blessings Allah has given Him, and charity is one of the noteworthy acts of worships to show your thanks to ALLAH. This is a good tool in Dawah, if, by chance guests see this money boz or p..... bank. Have one of your children describe what it is, while you get something from the kitchen. Indirect dawah is effective with children as a matter of fact. Teach your children the pillars of eman, or a new nasheed, and have them sing it to your non-practicing family members; you never know, maybe a child can warm the heart of one who has deserted ALLAH's path. Never give up, and keep up the great work brothers and sisters.

Sincerely,
Sister Maryam
To add to this I think another good thing is to let the kids go and give that money with their own hands.Give them the habit of having money in their hands and parting with it for the sake of Allah. The then know the difference between sweets money and Sadaqah money.My kids fight, to go and give the money until eventually I have to change the total amount into small change and let them each go and give.It helps them to go and give sadaqah with their own hands
salams
Aboo Mohammad

sukayna
18-05-2005, 09:12 AM
I love the money box idea i will definately do this in my home. Allah Maak

poor slave
18-05-2005, 01:02 PM
Assalamu alaikum,
You gave me another idea, after collecting a certain amount of money make it a WAGF "endowment", which means Only for Allah, something that will generate it self. A lot of Islamic centers here do that , they by any thing with the money they collect then thy do something with it to helop it generate its self, such as buying a building and renting it, so all the money that comes out of it is also a WAGF, and it's all also for the sake of Allah. That way in sha Allah you will have more money to use it to serve Islam in a better and bigger way.
Take care

candle of hope
18-05-2005, 01:22 PM
Al Sallam Wa Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh..

Al hamdlillah.. i started it at home, and hopefully i will continue doing it..
i have sticked a small peice of paper and wrote on the money box "WaQf" which sister poor slave explained its meaning..

it is a good thing to teach children from a young age to help people, in order for it to be a habit, like abomohammed said :)

Jazakoum Allah All :)
InshaAllah We enter the highest rank in heaven which is Il Firdaws Al A'ala..

candle of hope
18-05-2005, 01:32 PM
Al Sallam Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh..

my brother, abomohammed..
i dont have the right to say that if the anasheed are haram or not..

that is why, please visit this URL and you will know the fatwa about anasheed with musical instruments..
it has several fatawe's..

Jazak Allah khairan

THE URL:
i would like to know if muslims are allowed to lisen to islamic songs with instruments in it. please answer by using the quran and the sunnah or ijmaa. (http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=5011&dgn=4&ln=eng)

candle of hope
21-05-2005, 09:26 PM
Al Sallam Wa Alaikoum Wa Rahmat ALlah Wa Barakatuh..


i just want to check if the "money box" idea went on OK or not :)

waiting for your replies.. :)

May Allah Be with you

aboomohammad
22-05-2005, 12:26 AM
Al Sallam Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh..

my brother, abomohammed..
i dont have the right to say that if the anasheed are haram or not..

that is why, please visit this URL and you will know the fatwa about anasheed with musical instruments..
it has several fatawe's..

Jazak Allah khairan

THE URL:
i would like to know if muslims are allowed to lisen to islamic songs with instruments in it. please answer by using the quran and the sunnah or ijmaa. (http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=5011&dgn=4&ln=eng)
salams sister
As i said there is difference of opinion on this, many questions have been asked about Music and many like me an ex DJ have been curious of this issue for years.Sister islam prohibits Like I mentioned a full orchestra od Music,As far as i read String and wind Instruments are prohibitted in islam. If we follow the Fatwas you have posted then Even the Ansaheed is haram since it is considered Idle talk.

"Most of the scholars interpreted lahw al-hadeeth (“idle talk”) as meaning singing and musical instruments, and every voice that diverts people from the truth."

Mujaahid said, “This refers to singing and flutes.”

Al-Tabari reported that al-Hasan al-Basri said:

“His voice is the tambourine.”
so if we take that stance then even the siging (idle talk is haram then.)which in that discounts listening to any anasheed at all with miusic or without.When i say with music I refer to those with drum patterns on them. not the london philharmonic orchestra which we all no without any doubt is haram. The following fatwas from other Ulema and Fatawa councils howvere give aonhter sid eof the coin pls read (some of them links here have both views for and against):

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=40116

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=78488

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=40116


so it is up to Allah what he has made lawful and unlawful we cannot make haram what he has made Halal and vice versa.
Allah knows Best
salams
Aboo Mohammad

maryam_islam
22-05-2005, 07:36 AM
Salam alaikum wa rahmut ALLAH wa barakatuh,

Good point brother. I realized it is a difficult question to be asked of whether music is haraam or halal because of the underlying question in Islam, "What is considered music?!" Many Ahadeeth state that the voice itself is music, but does that necessarily imply that all of its beautiful tunes that it comprises is lahw? Ofcourse we can chant the athkar, Qur'aan, and the shahadah in a tune that may draw us closer to ALLAH rather than divert us. The voice, especially a beautiful one that is admired when heard can be a fitnah when used incorrectly with the wrong type of instruments. Take for instance, this example. Many people are awed by Br. Sami Yusuf; masha'ALLAH la kewata ila bilah because of the gift ALLAH has given him, but choose to neglect the fact of the strong differences with the use of instruments. I know it was mentioned earlier that his music can be used with non-Muslims, because it is not haraam for them to listen(although some Chrisitians have told me otherwise:) ), but it can be tricky for Muslims to sit and listen and not get caught up with the music.

I guess I could conclude that if it weren't for ALLAH's Mercy upon us, we wouldn't find fatwas to put our souls to rest and make us steadfast on His Glorious Path.

"Allahumma arena al haq haqqa, warzuqna itiba'oo, wa arenna il batil batil, warzuqna ijtinaboh"

Wasalam alaikum wa rahmut ALLAHI wa barakatuh,
maryam_islam

candle of hope
23-05-2005, 10:32 PM
Al Sallam Wa ALaikoum Wa Rahmat ALlah..

how come there are no idea's about serving islam!!?

maryam_islam
28-05-2005, 03:29 PM
Salam alaikum wa rahmut ALLAH wa barakatuh,

One of "obvious" ideas for serving Islam, is to make use of the Islamic poetry, whether old or contemporary. It's indirect, passionate, intellectual, and productive.

I love posting on this site, but I hope no one is annoyed with me mostly posting poetry. I apologize to all. But Insha'Allah I have hope that maybe non-Muslims might take a look at them...

maryam_islam

candle of hope
28-05-2005, 10:41 PM
Wa Alaikoum Al Sallam Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh..


sister, it doesnt annoy us at all..
instead it makes us happy, knowing that people right things about islam rather than love and romance..

Jazakee Allah khair sister..
Barak ALlah Feekee..

Sumeje
30-05-2005, 05:36 PM
Assalamu alaykum

I like money box idea a lot..

Dr.Daniel McBride wrote good book "Who is wright and who is wrong and why"..The book is very good and I think is good for non muslims - aslo for muslim as well..We cain learn a lot from this book..

He converted to Islam and now he talks about Prophet Ibraham (pease be upon him) and why some christians leader don't want to recognize that Muhamed salla Allahu alayhe wa sallam is our last Prophet..and more

We can also copy his lectures on Cd and give them out what do you think?

I am trying to be active but don't have that much time..so forgive me if I am not here that offten but I will do as much as I can..

your sister in Islam

candle of hope
30-05-2005, 10:21 PM
Wa Alaikoum Al S allam Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barakatuh..

we have all been losin track of time.. because time is passing by very fast...
and we know the reason.. :o(

Anyway.. regarding your idea.. it is lovely..
and i think that we should give out the CD for free..

unfortunately..
i dont live in a foreign country.. so i may not get as much results as you may.. becuase of the fact that i come from an Arabic country..
i believe it will be useful for those who live in Foreign countries..

Jazakee Allah khairan sister on your idea..
and im glad you suggested something..

Oh and i hope you start the "MONEY BOX" idea.. ;o)

Milanista23
30-05-2005, 11:00 PM
An Idea:

Go to different religion chat rooms and discuss about Islam and teach what Islam tells, it is a very useful idea and a very good idea. I have been doing that for sometime now and I find it interesting and also giving some really good results.

You can lead the people that you talk with to some Islamic web sites at the end of the chat or to send them books about Islam. Of course you can get books either in this web site or through me. Just give me the address of the person and the books can be sent to them.

Milanista23
30-05-2005, 11:07 PM
Another Idea:

There is a project called "Dawah Bag". This project did not see the light in most of the world unfortunately except in Saudi. However, there are few chances that the idea will start in UAE as well.

The idea is as follows: A bag containing Dawah materials like booklets, pamplets, etc about Islam in different languages. Whenever you see someone in the street, or whereever, you can give them a gift, a booklet or whatever. Of course an idea place for the bag would be in your car or anywhere you stay often, etc.

One small booklet that worth almost no money can turn a person into Islam. It worth a try.

A saw a project of a Dawah Bag with books in different languages to teach people about Islam. But since this type of project is still very new, people can still make their own Bag with their own Dawah materials.

Of course the bag can contain books for Muslims as well. Arabic books and audio cassettes as well. Of course for Arabs it is better to provide Cassettes since we unfortunately don't read as much as we listen!

Sumeje
30-05-2005, 11:09 PM
Assalamu alaykum

I did started :) and I also mentioned money box to some people that I know..will tell you what they think ,)

We can also sponsor a child as well..

I don't leave in USA but I find out that lot of people in Europa or in Bosnia (where I am from) are interested in hearing what others have to say about converting to Islam (meaning people around world) this is my experience...

But, we can find any books or other material and hand out...

p.s. anyone who knows about Islamic organization for sisters in Germany English speaking if possible let me know..

aboomohammad
30-05-2005, 11:33 PM
An Idea:

Go to different religion chat rooms and discuss about Islam and teach what Islam tells, it is a very useful idea and a very good idea. I have been doing that for sometime now and I find it interesting and also giving some really good results.

You can lead the people that you talk with to some Islamic web sites at the end of the chat or to send them books about Islam. Of course you can get books either in this web site or through me. Just give me the address of the person and the books can be sent to them.
Salams
of course don't forget to inviute them to imanway for dialogue.
Salams
Aboo mohammad

Milanista23
30-05-2005, 11:33 PM
Third Idea, and probably a very important thing:

A Project for Fajr Prayer Waking Up.

The project is basically to have a group of three people or above, or even two who try to wake up the others once they wake up in the morning for the Fajr Prayer ONTIME!
Whoever wakes up first have the duty of waking up the other members of his group. Of course he will know if the person woke up if the other person "rejected" the call, in other words hang up the phone. No replies are required in the project, just ringing is enough so that people won't complain about money :p

Anyway, this project is always a very successful way for waking up for Fajr Prayer as well as helping other to wake up, so you get double or triple the reward :)

Just everyone need to find a group to start this project. This group can be friends, relatives or even your own family.

How bad are we all in Fajr Prayers, we all know that, so it would help all Muslims if the project sees more light

Milanista23
30-05-2005, 11:36 PM
Salams
of course don't forget to inviute them to imanway for dialogue.
Salams
Aboo mohammad

I mainly give them three sites:

http://www.islam-guide.com
http://www.imanway.com/en
http://www.55a.net/eng/index.htm

The idea of chat rooms was from a brother in this forum, Dexter, and it proved its success for me at least.

aboomohammad
30-05-2005, 11:38 PM
Another Idea:

There is a project called "Dawah Bag". This project did not see the light in most of the world unfortunately except in Saudi. However, there are few chances that the idea will start in UAE as well.

The idea is as follows: A bag containing Dawah materials like booklets, pamplets, etc about Islam in different languages. Whenever you see someone in the street, or whereever, you can give them a gift, a booklet or whatever. Of course an idea place for the bag would be in your car or anywhere you stay often, etc.

One small booklet that worth almost no money can turn a person into Islam. It worth a try.

A saw a project of a Dawah Bag with books in different languages to teach people about Islam. But since this type of project is still very new, people can still make their own Bag with their own Dawah materials.

Of course the bag can contain books for Muslims as well. Arabic books and audio cassettes as well. Of course for Arabs it is better to provide Cassettes since we unfortunately don't read as much as we listen!
We have this da'awah bag here , we get it after we take the da'awah training course with Dr bilal, we have books in there of all languages and i leave it in the back of the car.Any time I go shopping or meet foreigner and I know what language they speak I give them some books and leaflets. Also by default we know there are many Indian and Philipinos working here so whenever I go somewhere I take some books form the Bag in their language.Very good way.
salams
Aboo mohammad

Milanista23
30-05-2005, 11:40 PM
Forth Idea:

Using "SMS" or "MMS" for Dawah.

Send SMS that contains a hadeeth, or a rememberance, or an advice or even a date for a lecture, or announcement of Janaza prayer etc to your friends, family or relatives. Make it a common practice to send something every few days or so. A very simple way but it can prove to be affective as well.

Sometimes people find it a bit difficult to advice someone, but through an SMS message, many advices can given, directly or indirectly.

There are even web sites to send free SMS, so it can even be done for free ;)

Milanista23
30-05-2005, 11:41 PM
We have this da'awah bag here , we ge after we take the da'awah training source with Dr bilal, we have bboks in their of all languages and i leave it in the back of the car.any time I go shopping or meet foreigner and I know what language they speak I give them some books and leaflets. Also by default we know there are many Indian and Philipinos working here so whenever I go somewhere I take some books form the Bag in their language.Very good way.
salams
Aboo mohammad

Yes it is indeed a very good way. Well no surprises that the idea is there as Dr. Bilal is very unique in his ways for Dawah, ma shaa Allah :)

Milanista23
30-05-2005, 11:46 PM
Fifth Idea:

A Project to memorize the Noble Quran with a friend or a relative or even a family member. Of course it can even be done in a group. Every day you agree on some part from the Noble Quran to be memorized and everyone need to recite what he has memorized to the other person and so on.

Of course you need to have different times for revisions and knowing Tajweed as well.

The Noble Quran is one of the very important things that can cause a real affect to your heart and life.

Below is a web site that is quite helpful, but it is in Arabic:
http://quran.muslim-web.com/sura.htm?aya=001

candle of hope
01-06-2005, 11:40 AM
Al Sallam Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah WA Barakatuh..

Sister, Milanista..
great ideas..
jazakee Allah khairan..

it the "arabic sisters forum"
we have a project to read the Quran fully in one month..each month.. we read the Quran from the very first til the very end.. :)
and ilhamdlillah.. alot of sisters have participated with us..

so this is another idea too..

poor slave
01-06-2005, 01:27 PM
Assalamu alikum All,
Sister Sumeje, I have a couple of links that can lead you to Different Islamic centers in Germany if you inly send them an Email, they are sites in Deutsch language I thinks like German?? And I guess some are in German Language, I really don't know how to speak German , that's why I can' tell the difference.
Take care
Your sister
Poor Slave


German (Deutsch) الألمانية

http://www.al-islaam.de
http://www.muslim-markt.de
http://www.minhaj.de/Deutsch/deutsch.html
http://www.salaf.de
http://www.islam.de/
http://www.orst.edu/groups/msa/books/nawawi_g.html
http://www.orst.edu/groups/msa/quran/index_g.html
http://www.al-islam.com/ger/
http://www.radioislam.net/protocols/quote-ger.htm
http://www.islamic.org
http://www.islamworld.net
http://www.harunyahya.org/de/index.html
http://www.islam-guide.com/de/
http://www.religionofislam.com/german/index.htm

Milanista23
02-06-2005, 11:47 PM
Al Sallam Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah WA Barakatuh..

Sister, Milanista..
great ideas..
jazakee Allah khairan..


Wa'alaikom Assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,
It is rare for a Milanista to be a sister! :p Anyway, I'm a brother.

Milanista23
02-06-2005, 11:49 PM
Idea:

Buying few Plastic Chairs and keeping them in the mosque so that the old people get the benefit from them, and you get the reward.

Milanista23
02-06-2005, 11:50 PM
Idea:

Sticking in your car, at the back a web site about Islam withan interesting question such as "What do you know about Islam?", so that people can know more about Islam, especially Non Muslims.

Sumeje
04-06-2005, 12:36 AM
Assalamu alaykum

:) I was thinking the same :) brother hehe

Jazhak Allah khair! very good ideas brother :) also i mentioned money books to some people and they think is very good..I will mentioned rest as well insh Allah

poor slave Jazhak Allah khair on links love your sister

I am very sad today..I saw vidio clip and I have no words to describe my emotions..
you can see for yourself on this website..www.umsa.org than clik on POGLEDAJTE KRŠĆANSKO TERORISTIČKI KUKAVIČLUK and you can download video..sory I don't know how to transfer only video so forgive me..cause everything is in Bosnian..

This video shows how Serbians in 1995 killed some brothers..they made tapes live and this is one of many..two brothers were only 17 at the time..one of them his mother recognize him on TV when she was watching news :( In one sentece serbian solder said my baterie is allmost dead but will last till the end :(

Also I would ask you to pray for sister Nadja Dizdarevic..she is in Bosnia and her husband was taken long ago with some others brother to Qutanamo Bay..on June 6 there will be demonstration held in Sarajevo in front of USA buildnig so please remember our sister..I was thinking that we all could write letters and send them to USA embassy in Sarajevo in protest..What do you think?

your sister in Islam

Sumeje
04-06-2005, 12:44 AM
I forgot to mentiond (in this video) serbian solder is calling Srebrenica Serbian city..In only seven days in Srebrenica they killed more than ten thousand people..also one of the boy's mother said..he left and than I was packing to run as well..than I saw him on the window and I asked him:why did you return..he said I forgat to kiss you mom...I have to say while I am writing this I can hold my tears..I have seen so much but..

can you picture yourself that you are standing in line and you know you are next..Ya Allah in your hand is justice so punish all of those who took lives of inocent our brother and sisters..Amin Ya Rabb

Allahu Ekber!!

aboomohammad
04-06-2005, 12:00 PM
I forgot to mentiond (in this video) serbian solder is calling Srebrenica Serbian city..In only seven days in Srebrenica they killed more than ten thousand people..also one of the boy's mother said..he left and than I was packing to run as well..than I saw him on the window and I asked him:why did you return..he said I forgat to kiss you mom...I have to say while I am writing this I can hold my tears..I have seen so much but..

can you picture yourself that you are standing in line and you know you are next..Ya Allah in your hand is justice so punish all of those who took lives of inocent our brother and sisters..Amin Ya Rabb

Allahu Ekber!!
Salams sisters and brithers too from Bosnia and other parts of the world.We always have to spare a thought for our brothers and sisters in Bosnia and other parts too.Bosnia and chechnya and so on are all part of our History of how muslims were slaughtered in mass because their only crime was being Muslim. We have to pray and also to be patient for the the Day when Allah will give us the promised victory.Also we have to be proud of those muslims who stood up and helped defend our brothers and sisters in Bosnia,Many of them were from Big well known families in the Arab world, sons of Govenors and even members of some royal family, and well known sports people who left the Glory of this world and wnet to help muslim in distress.May Allah give them the Highest of Paradise.
Ameen
Aboo mohammad

candle of hope
04-06-2005, 04:32 PM
Al Sallam Alaikoum Wa Rahmat Allah Wa Barkatuh,,

Brother Milanista..
my apologies for mixin up your gender.. :)

i would to comment on your idea's..
you idea's are amazing.. :) mashaAllah :)

SkyAboveYou
05-06-2005, 03:32 PM
As Salamu Alaikum brothers and sisters :)

Barak Allahu feekum and in the ideas that you have posted
MashaAllah its very impressive,,,

I especially liked the idea of the Dawah Bag mentioned by brother Milanista

I dont know if any1 knows where those dawah bags are sold in Saudi or how they look, maybe posting a pictureof them would give us all a better idea when trying to implement it on our own inshaAllah :)

Milanista23
06-06-2005, 12:32 PM
I dont know if any1 knows where those dawah bags are sold in Saudi or how they look, maybe posting a pictureof them would give us all a better idea when trying to implement it on our own inshaAllah :)

I don't think I can get a picture of that. But I will try to get the contact of the people in Saudi or even in UAE if the project is started.

The bag is a normal bag, something similar to a school bag with many dividers inside in which booklets can be inserted. Each divider can hold the books of a specific language (something like that). There are different sizes of the bag which can be used in different places. For example in the car, the bag can be quite a big one (The one that I saw was the big size). But there are other smaller sizes that can be carried along.

The idea was that a person buys the bag with the bag full of books of different languages. Once he gave all the books, he can then ask for "re-filling" of the bag with the books again.

Anyway, I will try to get the contact if possible.

candle of hope
06-06-2005, 02:29 PM
AL Sallam Alaikoum WA Rahmat ALlah Wa Barakatuh..

another idea..
You can print these posters then hang them in college, home, masjids ...etc
and inshaAllah whenever someone reads it you will gain ajr.. inshaAllah :)
I'm sorry for not being able to translate the writings.. but inshaAllah one of the members will help translate these Da'awat..

it says : SubhanAllah Al Azeem
http://www.islambgd.com/Pictures/d031-b.jpg

it says: Subhan Allah Wa Bihamdih.. SUbhan Allah Al Azeem
http://www.islambgd.com/Pictures/d032-b.jpg


it says: SubhanAllah Al Azeem
http://www.islambgd.com/Pictures/d021-b.jpg

it says: Subhan Allah Wa Bihamdih.. SUbhan Allah Al Azeem
http://www.islambgd.com/Pictures/d007-b.jpg

the pictures were taken from the site http://www.islambgd.com

aboomohammad
06-06-2005, 06:58 PM
I don't think I can get a picture of that. But I will try to get the contact of the people in Saudi or even in UAE if the project is started.

The bag is a normal bag, something similar to a school bag with many dividers inside in which booklets can be inserted. Each divider can hold the books of a specific language (something like that). There are different sizes of the bag which can be used in different places. For example in the car, the bag can be quite a big one (The one that I saw was the big size). But there are other smaller sizes that can be carried along.

The idea was that a person buys the bag with the bag full of books of different languages. Once he gave all the books, he can then ask for "re-filling" of the bag with the books again.

Anyway, I will try to get the contact if possible.Salams
I think I will have to get the Web cam out andd Photo the dawa Sandooq. as the Call it.I understand It does come from Saudi.
It is like a briefcase type bag with different sections in there and we put each language in its slot
salams (next post come the Web cam but you will see the bag only insha Allah)
Aboo Mohammad

nazirahmed
06-06-2005, 08:17 PM
Bismillahir Rahman nir raheem
Assalamu Alaikum Wa rahamtullah Wa Barakatuhu

Dear bro / Sis in islam
Alhamdulilah Wa ssalathu wassalamu a'la Rasoolulah
May This letter reach you all with Complete peace and Good Islamc Sprit
Insha Allah
We are now Manufacturing
Dawah T shirts for Brothers
Dawah Caps
Dawah Bags
The Slogans Are Printed in bags ,T shirts
We need Marketing in ur Countries
I think this as Automatic Dawah in INDIA
Because if we wear a T shirt we mingle and travel in Publc Places
Many Can read the Verses or Slogans printed on it
Please reply for Details
We are trying to do this as a part of Dawah not as profit
Insha Allah We will be able to market this Good Qulaty for low cost

May Allah reward us for our Deeeds
Wassalam
Jazakkallah Khairan

poor slave
06-06-2005, 09:22 PM
Assalamu Alaikum brother Nizarahmed,
I will be most grateful to help from here I live here in Saudi Arabia, Jeddah, we have so many Islamic centers here that new Muslims from different nationalities study Islam and I am sure they would LOVE this Idea, please give me the details and i would like to see a sample of the goods if you have a picture.
Take care
Your sister
Poor Slave

SkyAboveYou
07-06-2005, 11:43 AM
Jazakum Allah Khayr brothers Milanista and Aboo Mohammad.
I now have a better understanding of the concept of dawah bags!!
i really love the idea mashaAllah.
May Allah help us all in implementing the gread ideas in this section inshaAllah.

Aboo Mohammad,
will b looking forward to see what ur webcam will get us. :)

aboomohammad
11-06-2005, 11:42 PM
Here is the da'awah briefcase as i promised.
This is just some shots of how it looks like

aboomohammad
18-06-2005, 12:36 AM
Salams here we go for more of the Da'awah briefcase
Duahs pls
Salams
Aboo Mohammad

SkyAboveYou
19-06-2005, 02:50 PM
wa alaikum el salam wr wb

jazak allah khayr aboo mohammad for posting the pics!
it looks cool mashaAllah...
we need to find a smaller size of those bags for the female da'ees :) ...very neat!

aboomohammad
19-06-2005, 03:03 PM
wa alaikum el salam wr wb

jazak allah khayr aboo mohammad for posting the pics!
it looks cool mashaAllah...
we need to find a smaller size of those bags for the female da'ees :) ...very neat!
Salams sister,
well actually no even the sisters have the same types.After we all graduate from the Daa'wah course we get our bags and resources as part of the fees.The sister too.OH! by the way all the other bags are not that Chunky.Mine is full to the brim I make sure it is always full.I sometimes supply others who need too, this is why it looks so thick and heavy.
Salams
Aboo Mohammad

Khaled
10-09-2005, 04:20 PM
salams sister
As i said there is difference of opinion on this, many questions have been asked about Music and many like me an ex DJ have been curious of this issue for years.Sister islam prohibits Like I mentioned a full orchestra od Music,As far as i read String and wind Instruments are prohibitted in islam. If we follow the Fatwas you have posted then Even the Ansaheed is haram since it is considered Idle talk.

"Most of the scholars interpreted lahw al-hadeeth (“idle talk”) as meaning singing and musical instruments, and every voice that diverts people from the truth."

Mujaahid said, “This refers to singing and flutes.”

Al-Tabari reported that al-Hasan al-Basri said:

“His voice is the tambourine.”
so if we take that stance then even the siging (idle talk is haram then.)which in that discounts listening to any anasheed at all with miusic or without.When i say with music I refer to those with drum patterns on them. not the london philharmonic orchestra which we all no without any doubt is haram. The following fatwas from other Ulema and Fatawa councils howvere give aonhter sid eof the coin pls read (some of them links here have both views for and against):

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=40116

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=78488

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=40116


so it is up to Allah what he has made lawful and unlawful we cannot make haram what he has made Halal and vice versa.
Allah knows Best
salams
Aboo Mohammad
===============
Salamu Alaykom Brother Abo Mohammad..

To make the discussion some how accurate and precise..
Can u plz clarify , according to the (Islam On line Fatawa's) u qouted , what is allowed among musical instruments and what is prohibited?(For muslims ofcourse)...

pdc310
27-02-2006, 06:32 AM
:x018: Asalaamu Alaikum muslim sisters and brothers iam here to expand my mind with knowledge of Islam Quran hadith and follow the steps of of our beloved Prophet wali aslum InshAllah Ameen

pdc310
27-02-2006, 06:36 AM
salaam muslim sisters and brothers can anyone help me find one of these kind of hadith like the one i read which is like this when a husband and wife look at eachother with love and affection then Allah himself look at the both of them with love and affection i think this hadith is so sweet i would like to have anyone send me more hadiths on husband and wife relationship but something like this please JazakAllah Allah Hafiz

um almuthanna
27-02-2006, 07:32 AM
Assalam sister/brother pdc310 ,
U are welcome and i hope U find what U wish of benefit here .
About the hadeeth U mentioned,
U can find it in this Hadeeth database:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/092.sbt.html#009.092.407

Assalam .Assalam .